Monday, September 19, 2005

blogger frenzy

As you can see i am on a posting frenzy this morning. sorry.

I watched the last 15 minutes of "punk:attitude" the other day by chance. in some ways the last 15 minutes make the best point of the whole documentary (in my opinion) which is why are artists, musicians, writers, so eager to be part of the establishment these days? it seems like no one is out there trying to do their own thing,on their own terms. i am totally guilty of this and it disgusts me. how did this happen? is it that advertising and media are so quick to pick up on the undercurrents that everything gets pulled in to the establishment before it can even get it's footing?

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

As far as Handmaiden Brooklyn goes....very good. It is funny.

I don't know about the establishment--it changes so often, that it is hard to pander to it even if I wanted to. I so do not want to. Of course I am just a painter interested in visual things...I'm not so out-there in terms of my pursuits.

sloth said...

true true. 'the establishment' acts quickly to co-opt the next indie/underground/original phenomenon. But part of the problem is that it has gotten so freaking expensive just to live, that unless you have a cushiony pillow of family money, it's very difficult to survive and do your own thing without 'selling out.' a very few can swing it.

sloth said...

idea: let's all pool our resources and buy a crappy big building and start a utopian artist community.

Anonymous said...

I have no money....but it is a full time job just trying to keep up with the establishment.

Anonymous said...

I will contribute to the artist community!!!

fairy butler said...

yeah, sloth, i know. the cost of living. yes. but... i still wonder if i(or any person depending) would have more success(financially and recognition-wise) doing art or whatever in a way that is not the commercial elitist gallery system here in NYC. rather than playing their game? i don't know. i am feeling like there is no hope for me in that arena for the future but i still don't want to give up making art. and I am sick of the day-jobs - want more control.

i am just obsessed with getting away from beige and spending my time on things that matter to me. maybe that is too much to ask? cursed idealism and perfectionism.

fairy butler said...

and there are good galleries out there - sure - good arenas for viewing art and such. i am not against the chelsea art world, but i feel like it is so hard and wonder if there are better ways. the little voices in my head will not be silent.

Anonymous said...

It's not too much to ask. I wish the same.

fairy butler said...

It's hard to figure out how to be happy. at least for me.

fairy butler said...

lately i have entertained a very scary notion. it involves moving back to Iowa, buying a nice old house with a yard in a good school district, having kids, and opening up a small store there. it would sell art/have shows which i and guests could curate - drawing on people i know in NYC and elsewhere - plus would sell things like jewelry and clothes - all handmade stuff that i would pick. There is NO competition in Des Moines, none. I already know a bunch of people i could solicit to stock the store. It would be easy and word would get around easily because i lived there and a's mom is well known in town, etc. My mom would help me run it - I hope. I feel like it would be so simple.

It is the big fish in the small pond thing that appeals I suppose. To create an artist community/interest in a place where there is little. The people in des moines are dying to spend their money. And they have money.

i can't believe i am admitting this here.

fairy butler said...

I'd probably go crazy though, right?

fairy butler said...

i wish i could open my store in bushwick. but i would never make a profit - no foot traffic. will i wake up some day and just know what to do? i want someone else to boss me around.

Anonymous said...

FB, I feel your pain. I am sitting in beige thinking about my drawings.

fairy butler said...

huh...did anyone read the jerry salz piece?

http://artnet.com/magazineus/features/saltz/saltz9-19-05.asp

Anonymous said...

I have a lot of friends making all types of art. . .I often wish that I had enough to finance a co-op type store/gallery. . .somewhere in a place that gets foot traffic but not too outrageous for rent.

I've talked about this endeavor with other friends. . . I would run web design out of the back office to supplement rent and market things.

It sounds like a utopia to me.

Anonymous said...

I have been wondering today if the thing that bothers me the most about the business-money-infested, fashion-magazine-spreading, buttcrack-and-nipple-showing art world is just that it's not paying enough attention to me and my work.

I hope not, but sometimes I wonder if a lot of this incessant complaining from me & others I know is just sour grapes, even from mr. saltz, who earns way less money & has way less influence than many of the collectors, dealers & even artists he tries to persuade. Critics are starting to seem puny & irrelevant & he must know this. Anyone who isn't visibly, publicly raking in the dough is easy to write off as unimportant.

Okay never mind, it isn't just sour grapes. Though the grapes may be sour, the art world is also pretty lame right now.

fairy butler said...

jen,

i am drowning in sour grapes, of course! yes! hence my pursuit of a practical 'alternative'? basically i just want to make wacky crap and not have to work a heinous job. the art world has never cared about me anyway and it's probably for the best. i don't know.

do you have a blog now? i have to check this out!

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