Monday, October 17, 2005

internet cafe day

i think my boss is gone.? i have nothing to do really. will finish all scheduled work for the entire month of october. help.

i am thinking about the discussion from a few days ago about irony & passion in art on corncub's blog. i am needing a definition of irony as it applies to artists. it means more than being self aware, yes? it means making it a point to let the viewer know that you are self aware in your work? slippery stuff. i am thinking it is not either/or but a sliding spectrum.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

and self conscious about being self conscious?

Anonymous said...

That is art that is so self aware that it is making fun of being self aware. what art would fit into that catagory I wonder? 90's?

fairy butler said...

art that is so self aware that it is making fun of being self aware - sean landers comes to mind. lasker and mike kelley.

pd, i agree that the term 'ironic' is bandied about too freely.

sorry your week was so bad!!! boo!! mine wasn't great either -with the whole collapse of studio ceiling/worry. the less beige was good though.

Anonymous said...

Its like Oz on Buffy the vampire slayer. It was cute, but tiresome. Dishonest honesty?

fairy butler said...

HP! i am hating today. too much time with nothing to do. reading too much art garbage on the internets. unsafe.

fairy butler said...

hp. i still want to go to the cat carnival. maybe this weekend?

Anonymous said...

I want to go home now. I am so tired.

sloth said...

hi fb et al.!!! internet café day for Slothy as well. Sleepies.

The irony thing is confusing. I sort of understand it to mean that the artist is "outside" of the system of representation used, employing it quotationally in order to comment on it. Julian Opie seems more more ironic than Gary Hume, for example. Opie's work makes a comment on mass culture, while Hume embraces a certain lusciousness:

There's plenty of good ironic art out there, but the position of the ironist is seen as "above" the thing commented on, so it often comes across as arch and off-putting.

Anonymous said...

Yes. Too much of nothings here. I basement for a 40 min coffee break. Bad!
I would like to see the cat show as well. The price is scaring, but it is research for my cat behaviour routine. Lets go kitties!

Anonymous said...

Hi sloth and PD!

fairy butler said...

HOLAS to all!!

beige nothings today. stupid waste. oh well.

hp, the cat show is sold out for a while - i was looking at this coming weekend. isn't that crazy? but it looks like it is running through the rest of the year so no hurry.

sloth said...

true - it seems like a catch-all term.

fairy butler said...

i could also do without the term "sardonic" and "kitsch"

thank you.

Anonymous said...

blogpals, who are your top 5 favorite artists? sorry to be such a dork.

Anonymous said...

Mine are
Elie nadelman, greek and eutruscan art, wolfie, bernini, bruegel.

Anonymous said...

here is what is in the basement.
florist
bad coffee shop
smoothie shop
dry cleaning
company store
mail room
subway sandwich shop

fairy butler said...

HP, that is insanely hard -freaks me out to think about. you can always find these in my top ten:

guston
tiepolo (titian & tintoretto also - venetians)
blake

i will add more as i feel ready to divulge. it is hard to include contemporaries on this list somehow.

fairy butler said...

hams, who is wolfie, not sure

Anonymous said...

I like these lists. makes me want to expand my own. Wolfie is an outsider artist. I will try to find images... fra angelica and blake. love!

Anonymous said...

yes. I must go down further. I'd like to hide in tunnels.

sloth said...

Oh god, it's like asking which are your favorite kids... each has something different to offer, but shows/pieces by bernini, guston, manet, rembie van rijn, and bacon have blown me away at one time or another.

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sloth said...

hammy, Wolfie is that crazy insane-asylum guy, who made impossibly dense drawings, right? He was in a great show at the LA county museum of art, years ago. Memorable.

Anonymous said...

I am a dork too.

Bruegel, VerMeer, Seurat, Modigliani, Lichtenstein

There are more but those are the ones that come to mind quickly.

Anonymous said...

I think it's Adolf Wolfli, he was Swiss and crazy. I saw a show in Philadelphia at the Moore College of Art a looong time ago - the eighties!